Risk, Uncertainty and Sustainable Innovation, Day One


I’ve spent a goodly chunk of the past week livetweeting at the annual University of Michigan School of Public Health Risk Science Symposium. This year, the title and focus was on Risk, Uncertainty and Sustainable Innovation. I will spend time later synthesizing portions of what I learned (I hope), but for now, here are the tweets from Day One of the event.

For those who are unfamiliar with Twitter, the way livetweeting works is this. I attend the event, either in person or remote broadcast. I listen for comments or information that seem to me to be both of interest and “tweetable.” Twitter constrains both the length & frequency of posts. A post can be no more that 140 characters, which includes the “hashtag” (a technique that allows people who don’t know each other to either converse or comment on a shared topic, and which allows all posts on that topic to be aggregated). Because of these constraints, sometimes abbreviations are used to shorten the number of characters, and concepts may either be broken into pieces extending across two tweets (posts) or multiple short concepts compiled into a single post. This also means that sometimes a portion of the context necessary to understand the post inadvertently goes unstated, encouraging people to ask for clarification, and thus hopefully provoking a broader conversation on the issues.


UMRSC Risk Science Center: “Live streaming of next week’s symposium on Risk, Uncertainty and Sustainable Innovation” #risksymp http://tinyurl.com/3u4qg3x 14 Sep

UMRSC Risk Science Center: Correction to yesterday’s post. We are not live streaming the Risk Symposium. We are live tweeing at #risksymp. Apologies for the error. 15 Sep

pfanderson: WARNING!! I will be livetweeting all day today and tomorrow for the #UMich Risk Science Symposium, Uncertainty & Sustainability #risksymp . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: Want more info about the #risksymp ? Check umriskcenter.org | sph.umich.edu/riskcenter/ | Symposium www.sph.umich.edu/riskcenter/11symposium/index.htm . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: Impressed with the slides showing the sponsors and cosponsors. Some interesting organizations and activities profiled there #risksymp . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp sponsor Alfred P Sloan Public Understanding of Science and Technology sloan.org/program/3 Digital Info Tech sloan.org/program/28 . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp co sponsor A-CAPPP Anti-Counterfeiting and Product Protection Program a-cappp.msu.edu . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp cosponsor #UMich Office of Public Health Practice practice.sph.umich.edu/practice/ #public.health . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp cosponsor #Society for #Risk #Analysis sra.org #organization #risksci . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp cosponsor #UMich #Science #Technology and Public Policy Program stpp.fordschool.umich.edu . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp cosponsor NISE Network (Nanoscale Informal #Science #Education ) nisenet.org/about #nano What is Nano? WhatisNano.org . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp cosponsor Matter for All (Making New Technologies Work for Us All) matterforall.org #Nano & Me http://www.nanoandme.org #etech . 23 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Matter has some really awesome projects & info. Debategraph debategraph.org/walkingwithsta… #interactive PDF matterforall.org/pdf/MATTER-Wha…. 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Nanotechnology: Learning communications lessons from techno-disasters ethicalcorp.com/communications…. 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Interesting conversation around the table here about Good Guide goodguide.com and the Ecology Center ecologycenter.org . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: Mobile site for #risksymp 2011symp.umriskcenter.org. 22 hours ago

pfanderson: More #risksymp sponsors Coca-Cola coca-cola.com ACS americanchemistry.com Dow dow.com UMTRI umtri.umich.edu/news.php . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp sponsor Johnson & Johnson jnj.com/connect/ Youth Mentoring investor.jnj.com/2010contributi… Infection Control investor.jnj.com/2010annualrepo… . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: Getting started at #risksymp Andrew cracking jokes & introducing folk. Symposium honors Isadora Bernstein, funded by the Gellmans. . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science: “Rate of emerging technology innovation accelerating beyond what we’d imagined.” “An increasingly globalized world” . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science Do we completely need to rethink the balance between risk, sustainability, and innovation? . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: Center for Nanotechnology in Society cns.asu.edu #risksymp . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Video & photos will be made available on the web in about 2 weeks. Journalists wandering about. OPEN meeting, live tweeting, etc. . 22 hours ago

texas_inventor Richard Skorpenske sium in Ann Arbor #risksymp . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: @texas_inventor Welcome, and happy to meet you! #risksymp . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Martin Philbert, SPH Dean. Creating novel evidence-based approaches to assessment of risk, thorny issues. . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: @LISInstruct Nanotech & nanosci are a big part of the focus here today at #risksymp. So cool! . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp John Viera, Director of Sustainability at Ford. How can we take back to impact our own organizations? “Innovate or Perish” . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Viera: If we don’t innovate, we won’t be around. If academia isn’t innovating, we won’t fund yr projects. . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: We’ll perish as a species / culture if we don’t innovate rapidly. Challenges: Health/human rights. Food. Water. Environment . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: Challenges: Energy (renewable), Mobility & Transportation. Space (congestion). Solutions: Tech, business models, POLICIES!! . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: Blueprint for sustainability, what Ford does. Report: corporate.ford.com/microsites/sus… . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV quotes Bill Ford “Improved sustainabile performance is not just a requirement, but a tremendous business opportunity” . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: Sustainability as a 3-legged stool: Environment, Social, Economic. (CO2, urban mobility, work conditions, profit, cash flow) . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: What is the responsibility involved with putting large numbers of more vehicles on the roads? Fuel economy = lower CO2 . 22 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Interesting. CO2 coming mostly from Agriculture, then utilities, vehicles ranked abt 20% contribution. . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: #Ford CO2 footprint – manufacturing only 2%. Most comes from vehicles already on the road. Public transit helps reduce that. . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: #Ford working hard on human rights in developing countries, collaborating with Hilary Clinton iccr.org/publications/e… . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: #Ford working on changing practices related to conflict minerals, encourage govts to change practice in mines . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Getting it Right? Voluntary Human Rights Initiatives OR Of Human Bondage: Globalization’s Darkest Secret iccr.org/publications/i… . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: Big part of water use is ethanol, fuel uses. “Desire for development is infinite, but … ” Ma Jun in amazon.com/Chinas-Water-C… . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: @navi Interesting! This is an enlightening presentation on the #Ford corporate & social sustainability vision #risksymp . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: #Ford New models of mobility corporate.ford.com/microsites/sus… Car sharing, Alternative tech vehicles, Clean green, smart city . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: providing healthcare to rural areas in India via Apollo Hospital Partnership, esp women care, a vehicle as mobile info unit!! . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: Ford Endeavor as a Mobile health unit, mobile information units in Chennai (part them by the post office!) . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: PDF: Globalization’s Darkest Secret acrath.org.au/wp-content/upl… #risksymp . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: Building #Sustainable Communities through Multi-Party #Collaboration iccr.org/publications/2… #risksymp . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Gil Omenn asks about importance of rare earths in new tech and impact on sustainable use & innovation. . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV talking about how Ford works to provide worker safety in violent areas near factories . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp What keeps us awake at night? Panel: John Viera (Ford), Alta Charo, Greg Bond (Dow), Hilary Sutcliffe, Andrew Maynard @2020science . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Panel: JV: Come up w/ a great tech solution, & it turns out to be worse than the original problem. Someone dictating solutions . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: “Certain solution sets are eliminated because some1 has decided they won’t work.” Keep doors/ideas OPEN. Evidence, performance . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Panel: AC: “I worry abt what I don’t know, what I don’t know I don’t know…” Inability of gov 2react quickly enuf 2 keep up w/sci . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AC: We don’t have a good surveillance system for new tech, unlike FDA. Worry about growing anti-intellectualism & anti-science . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AC: Worried abt Rt & Lft convergence & agreement on anti-science. Spiritual attachment 2 what is nonscientific, secular religion . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AC is using “crunchy community” as a phrase, seems to have something to do with leftism? . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AC: Inability of the general public to tinker with the tech requires TRUST, delegation of authority. This creates suspicion. . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AC: Easier 2 imagine harm fr innovation than the benefits. Eg: invention of fire “raw food tastes fine, let’s not burn the world” . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GB: “Paralysis is not an option.” . 21 hours ago

openinnovation3: Building #Sustainable Communities through Multi-Party #Collaboration iccr.org/publications/2… #risksymp: Building #S… bit.ly/ptMR0n . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GB: We practice a Stage Gate process for emerging technologies. stage-gate.com/knowledge_pipw… . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GB: How do we regain public confidence in innovation, corporations, govts? Talent availability is big worry. Knowledge transition . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GB: “Are we getting enough diverse perspectives looking at new technologies at an early enough stage?” . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GB: “Geo-political risk is where we’ve seen the most significant upheaval.” “We see small competitors taking risks we won’t take.” . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS: “No known knowns.” Known known? “We will cock it up.” “seeds of our own undoing” from amazon.com/Bad-Ideas-Arre… . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS: Not enough learning from our past, not enough re-assessment of old standards, ripping up rulebooks . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS: We’re locked into heritage concepts & systems, not enough flexibility. . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS: “The public will be confident when they know the real stories.” #storytelling . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS We have to honor different perspectives, but makes decisionmaking extremely difficult . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS: OH on Twitter: “I don’t want to be more informed, I want people to be more responsible” or something like that . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: That was @HilarySutcliffe at #risksymp . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp MT @HilarySutcliffe RT @richardwi1son: …I don’t want to be empowered I want other people to take responsibility” Claire Fox . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AC: Assume you’ll have a breach, then analyse how to make it minimally disruptive. . 21 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AC proposes the Rick Rescorla approach to planning for security charlietuna.com/2011/09/09/the…. 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS “When I say dumb things that IS my job” Importance of intermediary organizations 2 bridge communication gaps btwn policy/public . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS “U can’t expect poor Greenpeace 2 have a sensible contribution if they’ve insufficient $$ 2 achieve thr goals, U get kneejerk” . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GB “The challenge we face (as a large international company) … is there’s no global harmonization” This creates artificial risk . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Martin Philbert: “I’m hearing the conversation needs to change to ‘nothing is safe’ fr ‘tell me it’s safe'” . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AC” It is a question of language. How is ‘risk’ defined? We need to say “safe ENOUGH” AM: A question of trust becomes safety convo . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS “We only have to look at a package of Advil to realize there are always safety tradeoffs” . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS: The benefit assumption is communicated in a narrow way. Need to provide a big picture view. . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS Problem: These conversations happen only at science events. They need to happen in public, in their language. < BINGO!!! . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Trusted authority: "What brand do YOU use?" And can you responsibly answer that question? "Safe enough" is important phrase to use . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JV: Unknown unknowns vs unintended consequences. AC: Role 4 academe, broad unconstrained creativity w/o expectation. . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Risks require diff strategies for diff scenarios, ie. "events that cannot be contained once they have started to unfurl" vs sm pop . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS: People on the fringes, outsiders, there is a moment when perceived "nutters" become the early warning system. . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science observes we need to fund the "Nutter Warning System" only partly tongue-in-cheek . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Panel 2: Techno-hype or techno-reality? Mark Banaszak Holl, Thomas Zurbuchen, Paula Olsiewski, James Bagian, @2020science . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science mentions @kurzweilai visions of rapid change in the future. Is it true? . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp MBH: Riskless innovation is NOT POSSIBLE. Therefore we are in a new era of risk. . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ: I spend my day encouraging people to take more risks, not less. We don't know enuf abt Market risk, indiv abilities, tech risk . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp "Are we on the cusp of a new era in the history of human innovation?" Panel consensus seems to be we're smack dab in the middle . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ: How to use data? picking data from fringe vs holistic comprehensive analysis. New computational resources. . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ: Change is part of the mindset. Part of identifying threats. This needs to be part of EDUCATION. . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ "These type of innovation thrusts happen. Technology thrusts." Much more global than it was. . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO: Microbiology of the built environment. "What's in the room with us?" "We're studying an invisible world." . 20 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO: Biologists now say, "Wow, the building is an ecosystem." Lots of things we don't know. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO: Synthetic biology. "What synthetic biology allows us to do is go from reading DNA to writing DNA." . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO: MIT's IGEM – Intl Registry of Standard Biological Parts igem.org/Main_Page . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO and @2020science talking about garage DIY science, #citizenscience & community laboratories. Very interesting . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB I thought the answer to techno-reality or techno-hype was "Yes." . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB: "In areas where there is good evidence in healthcare … even 17 yrs later only 85% docs use the preferred Tx." . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB We worry abt meaningful use, privacy, … how do we understand the value of the technologies? How do we keep the goal in mind? . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB: "How safe is 'safe'?" What does the consumer think of this? Do they know what 1 in a million means? #hcsm . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB discusses excellent poster here on dioxin risk and what people understand that to be. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB We have to communicate what is NOT a risk, people will imagine risks. We're not good at this. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science IDs information as core to both innovation & risk., common thread among the panel . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp HS mentions hype-hope curve as tool in responsible innovation blogs.gartner.com/hypecyclebook/ . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO: People have to have already done the work to get the grant, makes it hard to be innovative. Fund people to EXPLORE! . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ It's not a problem if not all our innovations see the light of day. That's OK. Can you sell it or not? Are U the right person? . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO: There's not a good business model to promote adoption of the electronic health record, we need business innovation #ehr #hcsm . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: There is a difference between innovation & progress. Does innovation include a change of mindset or … ? . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ "Where exactly is the use case in the future for X" "The boundary conditions that it's safe, that people will pay" . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp MBH Progress measured by how it touches the most marginal vulnerable populations in our communities. Most innovation doesn't touch . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: We lose trust in the research community where there is so much unfulfilled hype. Hype comes fr push to get funding . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: You have to know what you are doing & what it is for BEFORE you can actually get funding or do it . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: @GlobalMed_USA She's saying we need some brilliant business strategist to come up with new business model #risksymp . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science Enthusiasm of the scientist in communicating their concepts vs journalists trying to one-up each other . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO: Important for the future of science: Scientists need to not be boring, and to have elevator pitch for their ideas . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: "What difference does it make to the toolbox we have?" Tools looked at out of context. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: "I call it the 'so what' test." Skilled communicators tell stories that allow many POVs to engage. #storytelling . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Audience member said we need a sustainability toolkit. Wondering if she's seen this #book thesustainableenterprisefieldbook.net . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q/Maxine: "What exactly have we really achieved in the human health space?" Do we have tests 2 predict outcomes of newtech? No. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PO "If we can get the scientists to share raw data, that becomes VERY valuable!" #open #science "we call that the macroscope" . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ the real problem is the needle in the haystack problem. One you know what data U need & get it, the rest is easy. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ How do we get data that is actionable? This is a breakthrough research area. In essence, this is the robotics problem. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TZ on needle in a haystack. How do we figure out what is the needle and what is the hay? . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB: "Lives saved per dollar. That's how they were assessed. They had to produce results." . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp The most important outcomes from creating new tech are usually the ones we can't predict. If you invented AC, wd U think of CFCs? . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: @GlobalMed_USA I'm livetweeting an event as a volunteer. Video will be posted later. Paula Olsiewski is w/ Sloan Foundation #risksymp . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Panel 3: What are key emerging tech opportunities & challenges? Gil Omenn, James Baker, Ann Marie Sastry, Jrg Lahann @2020science . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Ann Marie Sastry is CEO of Sakti3 sakti3.com Very interesting. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GO: Things that mobilize thousands of people: Information technology, mobile tech, cellphones. #hcsm . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GO: We know a lot of things ppl can do themselves. Social decisionmaking, social cooperation. Supercourse pitt.edu/~super1/ . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Supercourse is an early example of MOOCs massive online open course . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GO Innocentive innocentive.com. 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GO Frame the problem so that it gets attention by those who can solve it. Crowdsourcing, boundaryspanning . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB I started a company. Not for faint of heart. Great way to screw up a good career. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB “Pharmaceutical industry is collapsing in on itself. There is very little room for innovation right now.” . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Developing world pharma, where innovations may not be commercially viable, but can have huge impact on developing countries . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB Creating vaccines that are stable at 40C – in a car trunk in Africa for 6-12 weeks. Awesome! . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB transformative impact on human life & suffering. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science Innovation in *systems*, how the system impacts on what you’re ‘allowed’ to do . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AMS Ppl need personal transportation & communication. Venn diagram of energy & information, the joint is smartphone . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AMS Increase energy density (See her work here: tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxUofM… ) #microfinance #microloans . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science You can’t do anything unless you both have energy and a way of distributing it. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AMS First order kinetics is a great way to transfer energy, but you have to deal with parasitic mass. Battery is @ right cost pt. . 19 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AMS “How many people have an iPhone? How’s that battery working for you?” Me: “That’s why I have a solar charger.” . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JL: Interdisciplinary research is very exciting, collaborations, working at the fringes, the interfaces of disciplines. . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JL: As you mix disciplines, communication becomes much more challenging, but also more exciting. Diff assumptions. . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JL NCRC (North Campus Research Ctr) interdisciplinary research, boundary spanning, moving out of your secure space. . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JL: Innovation leads to impact leads to attention leads to conversation leads to opportunity leads to application . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB & GO nodding abt importance of “problem formation”. GO “If U don’t know where you’re going, U don’t know when you’ve arrived” . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GO: “We have too much description, and not enough action” . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science expected what excited panel to be tech, but it was systems & information instead. . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GO: New technologies make new questions possible. JB: There is no 1 nanotech. Labels cre8 barriers to conversation . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JL: As we double up some of those tools, we’ll be able to ask questions we didn’t know we cd ask. Innovation is abt communication . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp A view of risk: Looking at a toolbox. How shd we form our questions? AMS How do we assess risks against ea other, cumulative risk . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JB: Risk has to be put in proportion with reward. Great value means you have to accept risk. Rational risk, actionable risk . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GO: We have made a big mistake trying to quantify risk. It leads to estimates with inflated precision. . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp GO ALARA as low as reasonably achievable. Reduce the risk, not exclude the risk . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JL: Regenerative medicine. Qs raised, why does it take so long? Get FDA into the process early. Regulatory process changes? . 18 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Folks checking out posters, also online, eg 2011symp.umriskcenter.org/symposium-post… #etech . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp convo: R we going to have our toolboxes drive our innovation, or R we going to have innovation drive tool development? LRudenko . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Panel 4: New tech, new risks. Peter Preuss, Mark Banaszak Holl, David Goldston, James Wetmore, Shobita Parthasarathy moderator . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PP: A system of governance that allows decisionmakers 2 make decisions in a timely fashion based on best understanding of #science . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PP: governance should include all major stakeholders . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp MBH Is innovation in healthcare the right approach to obesity, or was it earlier innovation in transportation & infotech? . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DG: We’re looking at novel technologies. Governance comes down to how many ways can you generate a committee? . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DG: Get at these tech EARLIER, regulatory process comes too late, after polarization. . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DG: “You can tell when a topic is mature because the language becomes juvenile” “All I need for politics is 2 ppl making a choice” . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JW: Glad we’re talking about governance rather than governments. Problems/solutions both too complex. . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JW: Example: Clean cooking stove for Ghana. But didn’t talk to the cooks. Cleanburning fuel actually created opportunity 4 vermin . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JW: Example: Tech to assist the blind. Met w/ ppl, told don’t build finding tools. Need tool to understand nonverbal communication . 17 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp SP: Governance early in the process leads to better communication, or stifles creativity? PS, is this feasible, sustainable? . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PP Sustainability & innovation will both come from How We Design That Future. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DG: There comes a point when ppl agree the risk of NOT having the conversation is worse than having it. That’s when ppl will talk. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JW: Goal Find Alzheimers early. Convo: but if it doesn’t change treatment/prognosis, what’s the point? (was true at that point) . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: Imprimature of the state makes her nervous about how Presidential commissions are constructed/utilized. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp I really want a transcript of what the questioner just said. Extremely balanced & insightful view of politics & a moral society . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp That was Alta Charo talking at 2:47 pm, for those who will check the videos when they come out. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Dinnertime speakers will be Rodrigo Martinez & Mark Jones fr IDEO ideo.com . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PP: We used to have a model that worked. We used to have an Office of Technology Assessment. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DG: “They wanted Congress doing more with less, they didn’t want Congress doing more knowing less” . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Lots of discussion here about the losses associated with demise of OTA (Office of Tech Assessment). I know I was so upset then . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp MBH: Industry funding in academia has been flat or decreased, thus they have less influence on innovation here . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp OpenIDEO openideo.com Open Planet Ideas openplanetideas.com . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JW: If I was going to change ONE institution it would be academia. Actual change happens when problems are solved in the world . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JW: Changing forms of undergrad education to promote the skills needed for discovery, change, leadership in the world. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PP: Army’s NetZero project army.mil/article/55280/… | army.mil/article/47573/… . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: “I get a little nervous when people say ‘In 20 years there will be no more toxic chemicals.’ Rather better management?” . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: Belgium view: “If you want innovation, it’s very simple. You regulate.” . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DG is so quick with great replies I can’t catch them all. Very funny & apt commentator. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp MHB: “Regulation is a fine word. But I don’t think we understand how to regulate our way out of the obesity crisis, for example” . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp PP: A lot of the discussion needs to be about sustainable communities, that don’t require a car. Design for a vision. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JW: The way funding is allocated has a major impact on how problems are solved. . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Panel5: Risk Toolbox Adam Finkel, Bernard Godlstein, Jo Anne Shatkin, Carlos Pena, Martin Philbert moderator . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp TCDD (dioxin) blood levels & cancer risk. How do the numbers work? JAS: The jury is still out on if that number is right . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF: Disparity between analysis and action. We need more of both. “Studying problems for their own sake” “Paralysis by analysis” . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF Analysis informs action. BG: If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it. Risk assessmnt works pretty well 4 most chemicals most of times . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp CP: “Can you get me a drug with no side effects?” [Audience laughs] Explanation. Then “Can you get me a drug w/ no side effects?” . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF: When we know in our heart of hearts that precision is false, we need to be more humble & open about the limitations of science . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp BG Clarify what is the data quality objective! Ask the decisionmakers, they’re the ones using the info. Analyses have uncertainty . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JAS: Risk assessment is really good at deep analysis and modeling. AF: Uncertainty analysis needs economists & cost/benefit . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF Word used is “flimsy” related to economic decisions in policy . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp BG: “We know how to do uncertainty analysis, let’s get on and do it” . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp MP: If you have the perfect numbers for risk & uncertainty, what do you do with that info? AF: We’d have forgotten the individuals . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF: Where can we find the people most at risk? Get the rest of the answers. Perfection is … not a rational requirement . 16 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp CP: Brain machine interfaces & other amazing emerging tech include both benefits & risks, design studies to ID these . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp CP: You need to start somewhere. The data may not be perfect. . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JAS Tech risk assessment is inherently more dangerous than chemical risk assessment. We’re a little rusty since demise of OTA . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JAS Scenario building is a good place to start. We need to make governance changes to revisit our decisions. . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JAS: How does FDA do preregulation? CP: ID market through trial design, maximise knowledge, shift moves from product to lifecycle . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp CP Surveillance activities to refine out thinking, address uncertainties, modify product for different indications . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF: We have to look @ alternative. What else would we do? “The precautionary impulse” “Noun adjective equations, ie. “dioxin=bad” . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp CP Surveillance activities to refine OUR thinking, address uncertainties, modify product for different indications (sorry, typo) . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: Where is the balance point between too much information, too little, or just enough? AF: Public is not as stupid as many think . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp BG: In medicine, if the patient asks, it’s usually relative, not an absolute percentage. CP: There’s a transparency issue . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp CP: The FDA cannot do this alone, there is a shared responsibility & dialog with the agency . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF Amniocentesis example, U have 2 consider 2 outcomes as equally dire in some circumstances (risk of Down’s, risk of miscarriage) . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DG: Originally conservatives asked for cost/benefit analysis, now conservatives say they don’t trust them. Sigh. . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DG: You’re still stuck making a political decision. . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp BG: People tend to match the tool to their expertise, (to a hammer, all problems look like a nail) . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF: Anybody can be an amateur scientist, but no one can be an amateur economist. “I’m trying to blow up that helium filled hoax” . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp CP: It can no longer be just one discipline in a room (for decisionmaking) . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: @beffuh Mine, too. I was paraphrasing. He said something else, but this fit tweet better.😉 #risksymp . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp BG: We’re looking at how to look at low level risks. Low levels are not necessarily verifiable, or clinically measurable . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JAS: “I’m not in favor of introducing politics into risk assessment” . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JAS: “We’ll never do a risk assessment of something for which we can do a safety assessment” . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Interesting that conservative as politics and conservative as risk assumptions are both used in same conversation . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF: “Of course we want certain types of politics out of risk assmnt, but … I’d like to see more politics based on the science” . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp BG It could be that the smaller dose has the greater effect. #nano . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp What is risk analysis for: 1) What is the level of risk?, 2) is it a risk worth taking? Q: Where does the public fit into this? . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp JAS: Participatory risk assessment is absolutely essential, but I’m a bit jaded abt those who limit ability 2 frame risk w/science . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp CP: Three public meetings at FDA on nanotech fda.gov/ScienceResearc…. 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp BG praising the Omenn Commission report on risk assessment riskworld.com/riskcommission… . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp AF Hard to choose between a tool that would really individualize risk vs economics of how to get there . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Oops I missed the question – how to choose a tool for a desert island . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp A few bits by Carlos Pena ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/doc… | fda.gov/downloads/Medi…. 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Integration of Risk Assessment slides from Bernard Goldstein (PDF) sra.org/docs_reg_risk_… . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Panel 6: David Bidwell, Diana Bowman, Erica Blom, Ahleah Rohr Daniel, @2020science moderator . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Panel6 is a group of young scientists early in career giving their perspectives on the conversations so far . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp David Bidwell working on climate change adaptation with GLISA graham.umich.edu/about/bio.php?…. 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Diana Bowman Governments R in a conflict of interest position, we need to decouple their role as investors & regulators of #etech . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Erica Blom Focus on policy tension / regulate, but “don’t tell me what to do” . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp EB Is it anti-intellectualism or is it a different form of knowledge? How do we include other forms of knowledge at table? . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Ahleah (ARD) how students actually act in a laboratory? They can be pretty …um, unquestioning. And unsafe. . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp ARD: They don’t really understand what the risks are. What is chemical hygiene, etc. . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science People don’t think in the way we’ve been trained to think DB: Not just diff cultures, but different values . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp EB: Whose risks? Whose benefits? Religious values may be just as impt to some as health values. . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @2020science The science should be common across cultures/worldviews/systems. Or is it? . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp ARD There are perhaps different assumptions about how chemicals CAN be used, the context can be different . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DB: It’s not just about the risk, but the ability of diff communities to adapt to repercussions of risk, resilience . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DB “the same # may mean different things based on the individual’s willingness to assume that risk” . 15 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp ARD: “if they’re not actually enforcing their own rules … ” It’s a free-for-all . 14 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp @HilarySutcliffe On the myth-busting of ‘the wise public’ “noble savage’ kind of idea. . 14 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp “regulate after the problem happens” is a mistake. The public are NOT going to think like you, no matter how long you engage them . 14 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp Q: Are we failing to educate the general public? Does the media generate techno-hype, vs what is real or fact? Public has choice . 14 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp The way we deliver scientific & technical education is BORING. How do we fix this? How do we connect with the public? . 14 hours ago

pfanderson: #risksymp DB: Asking people to play scientist is wrong, asking them to help set priorities is the right thing. . 14 hours ago

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